1 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:11,440 oh yeah i'm liking this oh no what just happened 2 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:18,560 we gotta do that again it wouldn't\h be our show dude if it went correctly 3 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:29,840 it's a remix 4 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:37,440 hey this is another episode of ufo garage\h\h 5 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:43,840 i'm ben and i'm joe and this is where\h we talk about ufos aliens and a force 6 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:54,160 oh yeah they look good tonight man oh yeah\h i'm liking it i got my tacos it's a little\h\h 7 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:59,760 bit different tonight we're we're wearing shirts\h tacos and we're wearing shirts yeah dude i've\h\h 8 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:06,640 got my beers here we're all hanging out it's\h tuesday evening thank you all for being here uh\h\h 9 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:13,760 i'm thinking a little round two with lou what are\h you thinking man round two with lou i know i know\h\h 10 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:17,840 it's been almost about a year i think maybe since\h since we've had them on maybe not even that long\h\h 11 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:23,920 dude i don't know i'm so bad with time but what is\h time anyways right time is real uh relative dude\h\h 12 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:28,880 we all know that it's science or something like\h that that's what they say anyways a lot of people\h\h 13 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:34,400 do a lot of people are talking about it dude i've\h heard that i've heard that well dude let's uh\h\h 14 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:39,200 let's say what's up to everybody really quick\h man how is everybody doing y'all been kind of\h\h 15 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:45,840 waiting in here for a little bit uh yeah chad\h smith in the house adam what's up bonnie let's\h\h 16 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:51,120 see here nan is in the house yeah there's some\h newbies in here or maybe they you know they\h\h 17 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,960 popped in before i'm not i'm not too sure but it\h looks like there's some newbies in here tonight\h\h 18 00:01:55,600 --> 00:02:03,920 right cool cool i'm liking it i'm liking it marcus\h in the house gordium what's up sun saver liking\h\h 19 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:10,880 this space out radio how you doing today dave hey\h is it is it daytime or nighttime in canada man 20 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:19,600 uh both both well dude let's get this kicked off\h man let's bring lou in and say what's up to him\h\h 21 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:25,360 lou james how are you guys doing man we're\h doing good man it's good to see you again\h\h 22 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:30,240 you know it's better to see you it's when you\h guys put your intro on there i gotta say it it\h\h 23 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:37,280 said ufos aliens and all things weird see to me\h at this point ufos really aren't weird to me like\h\h 24 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:44,400 pineapple on pizza is kind of weird i'm not sure\h that you know the whole ufo topic at this point\h\h 25 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,920 is really you're gonna have to change the moniker\h at this point it's kind of mainstream people were\h\h 26 00:02:47,920 --> 00:02:54,880 like meh you know it's not really that weird we'll\h have to tie in a pineapple on a on a pizza next to\h\h 27 00:02:54,880 --> 00:03:00,400 the the weird in the uh in the catch phrase you\h know so that way people would right people know\h\h 28 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:06,800 putting fruit on on on a you know on a vegetable\h dish i'm not i just i just have a hard time\h\h 29 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:10,400 i know people are really emotionally\h attached to their pineapple and look i\h\h 30 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:16,880 like a good pineapple too pina colada but oh\h pizza guys it's like i mean i don't even try\h\h 31 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:22,560 i don't agree with it either you know my wife\h tries to do half and half like i'm a i'm you know\h\h 32 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:27,440 i'm old school pepperoni guy give me the dude half\h and half then it you know the juice is kind of\h\h 33 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:31,680 leak onto the other half and it kind of corrupts\h the other part of the pizza that you're trying to\h\h 34 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:37,120 you know preserve and it's just it never works\h out you know it's it's it's a it's like one of\h\h 35 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:42,960 those relationships you have you're like look\h it i love you but this isn't gonna work i'll\h\h 36 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:49,760 say it dude i like it i like pine i like pineapple\h canadian bacon dude i like it i hear the odds are\h\h 37 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:55,760 one in three that's that's the odds of pineapple\h and pizza people is one and three and bin i mean 38 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:05,040 well i'm a pretty weird guy so that makes sense\h that's the way it goes an apple a pizza uh dude so\h\h 39 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:11,280 yeah ufos i mean we thought we thought about\h the cha at the beginning okay ufos that's\h\h 40 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:16,160 that's a very niche thing to to put in our name\h that's like very specific but now we've got uap\h\h 41 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:22,720 uh we've got all all the the new paranormal\h stuff anomalies yeah all sorts of numb num the\h\h 42 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:29,840 number right yes dude there's a whole plethora\h of new words and new nomenclature i feel like\h\h 43 00:04:29,840 --> 00:04:36,000 i think you're onto something with like these\h words themselves not being as weird anymore so\h\h 44 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:40,800 like well we need to keep in mind too in the\h infinite wisdom of of the us government we\h\h 45 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:47,440 love our acronyms and we love i mean something\h is as simple as a car right we have we call it\h\h 46 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:54,080 a humvee well humvee actually stands has this long\h ass and accurate acronym of what it actually means\h\h 47 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:59,600 and everything we do in the government has these\h these these long acronyms and things you're like\h\h 48 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:04,400 what the hell does that mean and you actually\h have to be part of like oh that's what it means so\h\h 49 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:11,040 uap you know ufo you know i get it you know\h some people are like i'm just calling ufos well\h\h 50 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:16,720 you know there's a couple reasons for that um but\h yes in the vernacular we obviously call them ufos\h\h 51 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:23,360 so i gotta i gotta ask you you know um we're\h talking about the vernacular here and there's\h\h 52 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:28,800 you know i don't know if you would say that\h there's a proper um term for it or maybe you\h\h 53 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:33,920 would but i want to know in your heart\h what's your favorite one to use you know 54 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:44,480 uh that makes sense whatever the hell it is\h i mean look i mean in all seriousness we we\h\h 55 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:52,080 we say uap because truth be told i know people say\h well just calm you off us the bottom line is that\h\h 56 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:56,880 you know we're not even sure back in the\h 50s and 60s and earlier it all worked but\h\h 57 00:05:57,840 --> 00:06:03,360 flying is is a principle of flight right so you\h have four fundamental forces you have thrust lift\h\h 58 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:08,640 drag and weight and when you understand those you\h create lifting bodies and and you can you can fly\h\h 59 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:13,520 but the things that we're seeing don't even\h have wings they don't have any obvious signs\h\h 60 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:17,840 of propulsion they don't have the things we\h normally associate with flight and by the way\h\h 61 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:22,640 we're also seeing them in the water and we're\h also seeing them in space so you know are they\h\h 62 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:28,080 really are they really flying well yeah they're\h in our they're in the air right aerial phenomenon\h\h 63 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:33,440 but we don't even know they're really you know\h case in point here here's a little model of a\h\h 64 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:37,440 well i won't say with it but a little\h aircraft right and you have wings and lifting\h\h 65 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:43,360 and different forces that act on that and you fly\h think of a 737 right when you're going from let's\h\h 66 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:48,400 say new york to l.a but these things don't\h have any of those associated technologies so\h\h 67 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:53,280 to say that they're actually even flying\h may not be accurate i mean they're in the\h\h 68 00:06:53,280 --> 00:06:59,600 sky for sure and they're moving around but but\h flight may not even be be part of the calculus\h\h 69 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:04,560 right blew my mind i've never thought\h about it like that by the way i'm gonna\h\h 70 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:08,880 have to call jim goodall after him and ask\h him what that was you just showed me yeah 71 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:15,840 it's like all that thing oh 72 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:27,280 you know that's such a great dude\h i love that guy he's so funny man\h\h 73 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:34,560 dude hey in the spirit of vehicles do you want\h to do you want to play a little game with us lou\h\h 74 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,000 guys let's do it you know i'm dying\h to turn some wrenches with you guys\h\h 75 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:44,720 all right all right let's do this we got\h a little game set up garage trivia right\h\h 76 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:50,240 it's kind of like that yeah yeah so this this\h little game we got it it's it's dealing with\h\h 77 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:56,160 cars it's dealing kind of with uh ufos paranormal\h having some fun we're gonna see uh lou if you can\h\h 78 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:02,320 guess what car this movie is from and maybe what\h the car is just by taking a look at little pieces\h\h 79 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:08,160 and then we'll show you the big picture\h all right awesome let's do it first car um 80 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:18,960 well i'd say probably a 1963 you know it almost\h looks like one of those old thunderbirds to be\h\h 81 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:26,400 honest with you um but i don't see the i i\h photoshopped the emblem out because it would\h\h 82 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:32,720 have given it away oh okay okay i know i know i\h made it hard i made it hard yeah you did because\h\h 83 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:36,320 you know back then they were all putting the\h the four eyes on those cars and they all had\h\h 84 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:43,600 the chrome grills those big death machines\h you know plymouth buick ford they were all\h\h 85 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:50,080 pretty much competing with each other and copying\h each other mercilessly and so um i'd probably say 86 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:58,000 could be a galaxy too all right go ahead\h i'm going to throw in the towel on this\h\h 87 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:02,880 one what's this one okay would you would\h you want to take a guess if okay i guess\h\h 88 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,760 if you don't know the movie or the\h car you might not know the movie but\h\h 89 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:12,480 don't say christine because that is not oh\h ghostbusters hearse got it okay ghostbusters man\h\h 90 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:21,120 you were what was that was that very close what\h was that 62 63 it's a 59 cadillac filler meteor 91 00:09:22,560 --> 00:09:27,680 yeah yeah that's a good one that was a boat\h that's hard that was a hearse i mean those\h\h 92 00:09:27,680 --> 00:09:32,800 things were kind of modified yeah they were i\h was reading down the list on like the actual like\h\h 93 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:38,800 specs on it and it was like it's a long name\h like it went like three little spaces yeah you\h\h 94 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,240 know on some of those those those hearses\h especially vehicles you would actually add\h\h 95 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:46,080 a couple extra leafs on the leaf spring in\h the back because it would carry extra weight\h\h 96 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:51,200 and so they'd have to beef up that that suspension\h quite a bit yeah i remember that i really do\h\h 97 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:56,800 remember that the the siren on that car how\h crazy annoying it was and it was kind of like\h\h 98 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:06,400 going down down the road yeah you know i was\h thinking about the leaf spring and the the\h\h 99 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:11,040 jacked up wheel i wonder if if that was an\h accidental it looks cool and now everybody\h\h 100 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,880 kind of does that now with adding the bigger\h tires i mean maybe there was a real reason\h\h 101 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:20,000 for it i mean initially for traction right so\h you had vehicles that were having bigger so\h\h 102 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:25,040 the circumference of the wheel was bigger so when\h you spun the wheel you had better velocity quicker\h\h 103 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:29,920 velocity quicker acceleration because you beefed\h up the motor and so in order to fit those bigger\h\h 104 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:34,640 wheels bigger bigger circumference wheels and\h even wider wheels you had to jack up either jack\h\h 105 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:39,120 with the vehicle or tub it out and tubbing it\h out of course is a lot of modification so the\h\h 106 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:43,440 simple way was just simply jack up the back so\h you could fit bigger wheels in the back and then\h\h 107 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,920 of course when you when you accelerate and give\h a lot of gas you know the butt of the car kind of\h\h 108 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:53,360 sinks down when you have those rear wheel drive\h cars right so having that you know that that rake\h\h 109 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,640 actually there was actually a real reason for it\h and of course then everybody said well i want to\h\h 110 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:01,440 have a race car too and you know if i jack up\h my car now my car's a race car well not really\h\h 111 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:08,400 four cylinder yeah if you're like in a\h 74 bonneville that's not going to work 112 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,840 okay to the back of it you dummy 113 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:21,760 i you know i i wanted to i uh photoshopped out\h the logo of this one just because i thought it\h\h 114 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:27,040 gave it away but i don't know i don't know if\h this is this is like no i'm thinking this is\h\h 115 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:32,080 too tough because i totally agree it kind of looks\h a little bit like a lincoln to be honest with you\h\h 116 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:39,200 uh or a mercury i'd say um and this is all this is\h tied to a movie so think of any movies well i mean\h\h 117 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:44,080 the black of course you're talking blues brothers\h would be a big big big one right of course um\h\h 118 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:49,920 there's no aliens and blues brothers though but\h that is a good joke well maybe they are aliens 119 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:57,360 men in black perhaps you know um 120 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:01,440 [ __ ] you know what i'm gonna say\h\h 121 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:07,360 i want to say it looks a little bit like\h uh it could be a chrysler too but i think\h\h 122 00:12:08,560 --> 00:12:12,000 i think it's a leaky come on give me a nova\h man you mean like a chevy nova or a chevelle\h\h 123 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:16,640 or something like that man those older cars are\h too yeah these are all grocery gutters man come on\h\h 124 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:24,640 um i'll get you know what i'm thinking\h big police car yeah so blues brothers\h\h 125 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:28,640 out but again you're telling me it wasn't\h um you know i'd say you know they went to\h\h 126 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:32,880 the chevy capris later on but earlier on they\h were really using a lot of the ford products\h\h 127 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:39,440 and then before that they had some kind of\h other ones so i'd say that's probably mercury 128 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:50,160 i'm not a fairy you had you had the the ford was\h right you got the ball right yeah you got the ford\h\h 129 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,680 right yeah so this one this was a little tricky\h because it could have been like one of two things\h\h 130 00:12:53,680 --> 00:13:00,960 both of them being afforded but this was a 64\h ford galaxy 500 i love the galaxy 500 but see you\h\h 131 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:06,560 show me the tail not the front dammit that car\h if you look up right now on google that had such\h\h 132 00:13:06,560 --> 00:13:11,440 a fantastic rear end not that i spent my time\h looking at revenge but i'm talking about a car\h\h 133 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:15,840 right so for anybody out there listening to this\h conversation i'm referring to vehicles oh that's\h\h 134 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:22,880 getting cut and spliced in somewhere yeah yeah i'm\h sure it will yeah look at that thing man it's just\h\h 135 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:27,680 um gorgeous oh dude that's sick yeah yeah thing\h right there yeah that rear end looks almost like\h\h 136 00:13:27,680 --> 00:13:33,360 a rocket i loved it look at that oh see that's i\h would have said that was a thunderbird right there\h\h 137 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:37,920 but it's it's a galaxy uh you know what in the\h 60s the thunderbirds were kind of they're really\h\h 138 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:42,560 big you know they went from the from the t-birds\h uh in the 50s which were these kind of then the\h\h 139 00:13:42,560 --> 00:13:47,760 baby t-bird and then they all of a sudden became\h these huge like blue canoes they just made these\h\h 140 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:53,680 huge vehicles with a big 390 block in there um i\h you know i wasn't i mean they're pretty especially\h\h 141 00:13:53,680 --> 00:14:00,080 a convertible thunderbird you know back in the 60s\h was nice but um i was more i was always really you\h\h 142 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:05,520 know if i tell you what i really like there's two\h favorite cars i have and they're gonna be you know\h\h 143 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:09,040 there's people that are gonna probably spit on the\h floor right now when i say with the second cars\h\h 144 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:15,760 the first one is a 1964 and a half ac shelby cobra\h with a 429 in it and a six-pack on the top i don't\h\h 145 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:20,720 mean beer six-pack carbureted four three three\h three two barrels right there there you go that's\h\h 146 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:26,240 that there is uh i'd probably be willing\h to sell one of my children for one of those\h\h 147 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:33,360 yeah that's maybe not but with the\h 427 it's gonna be a really hard choice\h\h 148 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:40,720 um the other one is i dare i say don't shoot\h me i just you know i don't know why i like\h\h 149 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:45,440 them because they're freaky uh the corvair i\h love that little car man with a little engine\h\h 150 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,480 i know that thing was a death trap i\h know i hear all the stories about it but\h\h 151 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:56,720 man i love a corvair man i do i just and there's\h something about those cars i think they're so\h\h 152 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:03,840 cool especially like a convertible\h corvair facebook corvair c-o-r-v-a-r 153 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:14,720 a-r yeah is it a 1964 uh no tried like\h a 69 69. the hell yeah oh that's sick\h\h 154 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:18,160 i love the man mid-engine look at that little\h red one the little roadster there about four\h\h 155 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:23,520 over to the right or five over to the right top\h layer up oh this one that one yeah look at that\h\h 156 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,720 thing man come on that's kind of cool it's kind\h of like mid like you're sitting in the middle\h\h 157 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:31,920 in between the yeah the wheels rather than the\h engines in the back which is yeah on that car\h\h 158 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:37,120 of course you're gonna use a death trap but you\h know i could see you scooting in that lou yeah man 159 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:56,960 you know what it's funny when i had a\h i had gosh that this was a high school\h\h 160 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:04,400 and i had a i had on the rare occasion i had a\h date i wasn't very popular i had managed this one\h\h 161 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:08,400 one young lady had asked was okay great we're\h going to go see a movie and i'll go come pick\h\h 162 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:16,080 you up she says what kind of party driver so i i\h have a vet [ __ ] i got to pick her up and she's\h\h 163 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:21,280 like hey wait a minute i thought you said you\h you have a corvette i said no i dropped a shiv 164 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:27,200 i just said a vet i'm sorry\h did i did you misunderstand\h\h 165 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:35,840 they mean different things to us babe oh\h my god look what you got against my phone 166 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:50,640 you know the cat's meow and that thing oh yeah\h like a dog pacer or a gremlin or uh yeah oh my god\h\h 167 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:55,280 that's a that's a dating machine right there see\h i could scoot i could scoot anywhere in that thing\h\h 168 00:16:55,280 --> 00:17:00,640 i like that i like that car bro i bet you could\h get pizzas places really quick and back alleyways\h\h 169 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:08,320 yeah and you can get beat up really quick you\h know i had uh several grandmothers that would\h\h 170 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:14,560 cheer at me and yeah this is awesome\h did yours have the wood uh wood panel\h\h 171 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:18,640 on the side paneling no that actually was\h long gone by the time i got the car it was\h\h 172 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:25,680 it was bad shape and it went zero to 60 and never\h you know there's a bunch of smoke everywhere 173 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:33,600 it was yeah it was so bad that's awesome\h all right let's do this third one\h\h 174 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,520 if you don't get this one that's totally\h all right yeah this one was the hard one\h\h 175 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,680 it's kind of a difficult one but it's it's a\h cool movie so we thought we'd throw it in there\h\h 176 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:49,600 yeah that looks like from tremors isn't it oh my\h god that's a good guess dude that's a guess that's\h\h 177 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:55,600 what i would have said that's a great truck man\h i mean that looks that's awesome um i've actually\h\h 178 00:17:55,600 --> 00:18:02,800 never seen this movie either so i mean well yes\h i tried to give you these defenders are modified\h\h 179 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:07,520 they've been cut out and replaced and i'm not even\h sure if that was the original sidestep bed the\h\h 180 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:11,840 little bed that they have on that truck that was\h probably replaced too so probably the only thing\h\h 181 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:16,720 that was really ever original on that vehicle\h would be the cab and i can't see the hood um 182 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:28,160 you know believe it or not ford at one time\h made a big beast of a truck in the 60s you know\h\h 183 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:33,760 you had also dodged doing the same thing but but\h ford made a big meme looking truck this was before\h\h 184 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:40,560 their their f-100 series and i'm wondering if that\h may be could i see some weld marks on there too so\h\h 185 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:44,560 it looks like it had some some significant work\h to in the lines aren't even straight on it so\h\h 186 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:50,560 well that's a tough call uh it may it could\h be i can't see the front so i don't know if\h\h 187 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:57,840 it's a chevy or a ford or or you know that's\h tough man we'll just give you this one so this\h\h 188 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:03,920 is from a movie called monster trucks and it\h was actually dodged custom made like 50 style\h\h 189 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:10,080 uh trucks for them and well the entire front end\h and rear end are not to that the only thing that\h\h 190 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,120 might have been part of that truck at some point\h other than the middle part of the cab would be\h\h 191 00:19:13,120 --> 00:19:17,280 part of the bed but that's a pretty\h constant background yeah it's all custom\h\h 192 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:23,360 see i would have said chevy because my dad had a\h chevy just i mean like you were saying earlier lou\h\h 193 00:19:23,360 --> 00:19:28,720 like in this era a lot of people were copying what\h was working right like so this this visor hood\h\h 194 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:33,120 well it is and you know what i think it the the\h the chevy though had a little bit more of a rake\h\h 195 00:19:33,120 --> 00:19:37,840 if i'm not mistaken on the a-pillar so when\h you look at between the the windscreen and the\h\h 196 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:42,080 a-pillar it almost can't it back a little bit a\h little bit more than that if i'm not mistaken it\h\h 197 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:49,600 kind of had that almost retro a little bit more of\h a 50s feel to it yeah but that is that's a that's\h\h 198 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:54,160 a mean looking truck man that's a cool looking\h truck all right so we made this game way too hard\h\h 199 00:19:56,000 --> 00:20:02,000 all right we got one more one more and this one's\h kind of subjective too i guess like but you know\h\h 200 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:07,040 they've narrowed it down to two options so you've\h been pretty good so far yeah getting getting close\h\h 201 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:13,200 yeah well i grew up unfortunately in this genre\h i actually remember when the mystery machine was\h\h 202 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:21,840 was you know the mystery machine and and yeah\h i remember that truck quite well and um i never\h\h 203 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:28,560 realized until i got older that that shaggy\h and scooby were um they were they were high 204 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,800 i didn't know that the kids thought they\h were goofy and when i got older i'm like\h\h 205 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:40,480 hey wait a minute yeah one of my friend dave\h acts like that you act just like shaggy dave\h\h 206 00:20:43,360 --> 00:20:49,520 always hungry oh my god i didn't put two and\h two together i was kind of uh you know kind of\h\h 207 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:55,840 kind of innocent i guess but i wasn't really young\h until i got older i might go now i understand the\h\h 208 00:20:55,840 --> 00:21:02,080 innuendos oh man that's it so they claim that\h that the uh the general consensus is that the\h\h 209 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:10,080 mystery machine is either a mid-1960s chevrolet\h g-body panel van or a dodge a100 see i'd say gmc\h\h 210 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:14,480 i was going to say gmc are we sure it was\h chevy because i would say more looks like the\h\h 211 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:19,280 gmc version which i mean that same obviously\h yeah i know tomatoes tomatoes people\h\h 212 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:23,040 are going to be updating the same factory\h or anything i know i get it yeah speaking of\h\h 213 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:28,960 tomatoes tomatoes i thought it looked like mater\h from uh uh from from cars uh oh yeah the truck\h\h 214 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:35,840 from cars yeah oh the movie the legendary\h yeah that's what i remember at a.s.r\h\h 215 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:44,960 that's a funny movie man yeah would you when\h you got little kids oh yeah that's great well\h\h 216 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:50,000 luke you know uh you got every single one of them\h wrong but we're still going to send you a t-shirt\h\h 217 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:54,000 oh you got the mystery machine though oh\h that's right that was kind of i mean that\h\h 218 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:58,480 was that was a gimme guys come on you get a\h koozie too then yeah that was easy i mean i\h\h 219 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:04,160 don't deserve anything for that i mean any\h i think anybody would recognize that hey man\h\h 220 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:10,000 everybody that comes on the show deserves you know\h at least a t-shirt so do me a favor the next time\h\h 221 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:16,960 let's put some cars like like you know not grocery\h getters not you know give me something sports car\h\h 222 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,800 you know we were trying man we were trying\h to think of some like cool sci-fi cars\h\h 223 00:22:21,360 --> 00:22:27,600 like alien movies but with older cars we're like\h we couldn't think of anything like we had like the\h\h 224 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:31,840 you know kip but then it was like he just kind of\h like fought crime he was just like a futuristic\h\h 225 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:38,720 light rider you're talking about the 1999 writer\h yeah come on that was great i told you i'm sorry\h\h 226 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:43,840 that that was like that's not an alien it was like\h the mandalorian is a time machine awesome man that\h\h 227 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:48,720 i remember when that car came out man everybody\h wanted one of those that was awesome and that was\h\h 228 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,720 yeah the front there man and then after a couple\h seasons it kind of got cheesy they started like\h\h 229 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:58,480 adding all sorts of like fake bodywork fiberglass\h stuff like little wings and stuff that popped out\h\h 230 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:03,920 at that point i'm like okay yeah it's like the old\h miami vice show right it kind of starts off really\h\h 231 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:09,680 good and then after like 10 seasons it's a stretch\h right so they start adding all sorts of you know\h\h 232 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:15,200 really outlandish plots and you're like okay this\h is the show's coming to an end soon i can tell\h\h 233 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:21,280 you could always tell dude when the dialogue\h starts to get like uh repetitive or like the\h\h 234 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:26,000 themes like there's there's there's like the\h same bad guy then i'll tell you you know i'll\h\h 235 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:32,160 share something with you i i i've never said this\h publicly but you know it's um people say oh yeah\h\h 236 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,760 you had that show and i said well you know we\h did as part of our public engagement and i'm\h\h 237 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:41,760 not really the tv guy and that's not really who i\h am i'd prefer to stay in the shadows i remember um\h\h 238 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:46,320 when the show got greenlit and everybody was super\h happy and giddy and i got this call from some\h\h 239 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:50,160 people from new york like hey congratulations\h to show and they had this kind of little\h\h 240 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:55,040 kind of little happy hour for for us to say you\h know this is going to be great and i feel bad now\h\h 241 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:59,840 looking back because i didn't mean it in a bad\h way but i looked at one of the producers really\h\h 242 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:05,600 nice lady i won't say her name probably look her\h up and i said you know i'll tell you you know uh\h\h 243 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:10,640 you know when you find out your show's gonna get\h killed right and she kind of looked at me says no\h\h 244 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,000 i think she's looking for like intelligence right\h like how do i know a show's gonna get canceled\h\h 245 00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:21,280 i said the day you find out it gets greenlit\h because no shows forever and so you know yes this\h\h 246 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:27,040 is time for celebration but also as as a time for\h celebration it is also a funeral to some degree\h\h 247 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:32,640 because you know that no show lasts forever and\h there will come a day where the show will end for\h\h 248 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,960 one reason or another people don't want to do it\h anymore the ratings are not there or whatever so\h\h 249 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:41,280 you know always be humble you know don't don't\h ever get too too full of your britches and too\h\h 250 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:47,040 big of yourself thinking oh this is it and\h number one you know this show lasts forever\h\h 251 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:51,520 right well i mean the same could be said about a\h lot of things i mean it's all about that balance\h\h 252 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:56,880 the yin and yang i mean it's it's an interesting\h perspective that you took about like the beginning\h\h 253 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:02,960 and going forward i mean that's a very human\h thing but not a lot of people take the time to\h\h 254 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:08,480 to go that far you know i think that's a wise\h way of looking at things i feel like a lot of\h\h 255 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:16,560 subjects could use that empathy or humbleness\h right so like well it is humility right and it's\h\h 256 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,080 keeping everybody grounded and realizing hey look\h we're going to do something we're on a mission\h\h 257 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,720 but but don't get too big yourselves remember\h there's a reason why we're doing it and if you\h\h 258 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:30,080 think it's just sell advertisements you're wrong\h we're doing this because we're we we believe in\h\h 259 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:35,520 this cause and we're gonna do our very best\h and you know we'll reevaluate in two years\h\h 260 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:40,000 but understand that you know this is just a\h means to an end this is this is to get the\h\h 261 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:44,240 conversation started that's always what this\h has been has been part of just one pillar of\h\h 262 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:50,640 of of five pillars that we've been aggressively\h you know attacking to some degree and um\h\h 263 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:55,440 you know so it's you know i guess for people in\h hollywood it's kind of hard for some people to\h\h 264 00:25:55,440 --> 00:26:00,560 to reconcile that because they think you know once\h you have a show that means you know your success\h\h 265 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:06,560 you're it that's it you've achieved that and i i\h tend to disagree you know i i think that's just\h\h 266 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:12,400 the beginning and you know it for us it served a\h purpose and when that purpose was achieved then\h\h 267 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,160 it was time to do something else now maybe in\h the future there'll be times to do it again i\h\h 268 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:20,160 don't know but but right now we're\h focusing on on getting governments\h\h 269 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:24,400 and our government in particular and congress\h informed and our executive branch informed\h\h 270 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,400 that our intelligence and defense communities\h informed and getting people informed and having\h\h 271 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:33,200 engagements like this you know i i personally i\h much prefer this type of engagement because it's\h\h 272 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:38,240 it's it's real and authentic and it's now right\h it's not like you're taping something and then\h\h 273 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,600 five months later it gets shown and people are\h like oh my gosh that was great you're like well\h\h 274 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,120 yeah but it was five months ago you\h know i don't even remember what i said\h\h 275 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:51,120 yeah you see what we're doing now right and so so\h this in many in many ways this is this is now and\h\h 276 00:26:51,120 --> 00:26:55,520 and this is why i like it so much because\h your audience is engaged and they can ask\h\h 277 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:59,600 questions you can ask questions and you know\h and sometimes poke a little bit you know when\h\h 278 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:05,280 you're kind of hidden behind the screen um people\h can kind of lose touch a little bit with with\h\h 279 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:09,840 reality in themselves and it's always important\h to remember that really at the end of the day this\h\h 280 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:14,240 this type of exchange this type of engagement\h is what it's really about this is how you\h\h 281 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:19,680 how you you touch people and how you how you\h interact with people you share ideas and it's\h\h 282 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:26,800 it's it's alive you know yeah yeah so yeah you\h know dealing with with all of this and you know\h\h 283 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:31,040 you know you personally being so close to\h the whole thing you know there's a lot of\h\h 284 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:38,480 there's a lot of talk in in uh you know in this\h realm of stuff what is what it what is something\h\h 285 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:45,200 that uh you think people should talk more\h about you know because it's so scattered\h\h 286 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:50,400 a lot of the times you know that you know if there\h was one thing that you wish that people would like\h\h 287 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:54,480 i wish we would talk about this a little bit\h more what would that one thing be for you man 288 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:01,760 you know it's probably not what you're expecting\h talk to your kids i mean we sit here and everybody\h\h 289 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:06,240 can tell you who won the super bowl and who's\h a quarterback for whatever team and if you ask\h\h 290 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:10,720 them okay who's sitting next to your kid during\h lunch right who's the second who's a second period\h\h 291 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:17,440 teacher who's her her fourth period math teacher\h they don't know that they don't know that yeah\h\h 292 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,560 and it's not important and we're expecting\h other people to raise our kids for us and\h\h 293 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:25,920 and that's part of the issues we have with society\h because we're not investing in the next generation\h\h 294 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:31,200 we're not we're not investing in ourselves you\h know we're investing in in reality shows and\h\h 295 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:38,240 keeping up with you know the smiths and jones and\h you know i won't say it but we know yeah you know\h\h 296 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:42,640 it's that's that that's our priority and we see\h and we're seeing it as a nation we're seeing a\h\h 297 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:48,720 slow and steady decay of of of what we consider\h you know priorities for humanity you know we don't\h\h 298 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:54,880 we don't see each other anymore as individuals\h most of the time when i was living in\h\h 299 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:02,080 across on the west coast i was i was surprised\h in some degree even appalled in in that world\h\h 300 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:07,760 of hollywood because the first thing people do\h is say what do you do not who are you right yeah\h\h 301 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:13,760 how are you no what's your name it's what do you\h do and the reason why is because they're racking\h\h 302 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,200 and stacking in their brain where do they fall\h right can they get something from you are they\h\h 303 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:22,640 higher than you on a social status they're lower\h than you it's it's very transactional and and\h\h 304 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:28,080 that to me was it was very very sad\h to see because we lose a little bit of\h\h 305 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:34,160 of our humanness when when we do that you know and\h i so if you were to ask me the one thing we should\h\h 306 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:39,200 be doing we should be talking to our kids more\h we should be asking them how are they doing how\h\h 307 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:44,480 are they feeling what's important to them how do\h they feel about the russia and the ukraine issue\h\h 308 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:49,440 i know they've heard about in school they're\h reading about it and current you know events\h\h 309 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:53,440 what yeah what do they think about what they\h think about china and the south pacific and\h\h 310 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:59,040 the you know south china sea and what do you think\h about climate change you know again without giving\h\h 311 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:04,000 a prescript prescribed answer just what do you\h think you know why do you think this is important\h\h 312 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:08,640 or do you not think it's important right are there\h other things that are more important to you um\h\h 313 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:13,520 i think that's what we should be doing you know\h a wise man once said a long long time ago the\h\h 314 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,920 greatest nation is about one generation away\h from utter ruin and what he meant by that it\h\h 315 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:22,640 doesn't matter how much natural gas and natural\h resources and timber and lumber and gold and\h\h 316 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:28,240 oil you have in your country at the end of the\h day it's it's it's useless if you don't invest\h\h 317 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:33,760 in the next generation because you're going to\h lose it all the greatest from my perspective\h\h 318 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:39,840 the greatest national treasure we have is\h ourselves it's our children so why don't we\h\h 319 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:47,360 you know pull your head out of your ass and\h and start you know investing in in the future\h\h 320 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:52,160 really in the future right stop stop you know\h trading on bitcoin and all this [ __ ] and\h\h 321 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:57,920 trying to find the next high and and choose my\h language and and invest in your children talk\h\h 322 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:02,080 to them you know what go out and throw a ball if\h it's raining you know what watch a movie together\h\h 323 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:07,520 just just spend time with each other talk to each\h other sit around the dinner table if you can and\h\h 324 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:12,640 if you're a hard-working single mother or single\h parent and you you can't afford to do it well\h\h 325 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:17,040 you know try to take whatever time you have and\h and remember time is precious because there's\h\h 326 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,720 people that i've had the chance to work with\h good people that are not on this planet anymore\h\h 327 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,920 and they don't have an opportunity to talk\h to their kids or their loved ones you know\h\h 328 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,800 so that would be my advice i know you're\h probably asking me more related to the topic but\h\h 329 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,760 you know you asked me my opinion so that's it\h it's perfect lou it's perfect because there's\h\h 330 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:38,880 no way that we can tackle anything bigger\h than that if if our future generations suck\h\h 331 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:45,200 you know how can you it doesn't matter ufos or\h nuclear war it doesn't matter anything doesn't 332 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:54,080 we should have as a nation in my opinion as a\h world like i always think about this would you\h\h 333 00:31:54,080 --> 00:32:03,600 would you rather know the truth of the phenomenon\h or would you rather be happy or or be able to live\h\h 334 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:09,520 a life and and have a happy life and a happy\h healthy family like what would you give up i\h\h 335 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,600 guess this was would be the question i've always\h asked myself that like since i've been into this\h\h 336 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:18,320 subject like what would i give up to know the\h truth and the whole truth not just about ufos\h\h 337 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:24,000 but like the history where we come from where is\h life what is consciousness itself and like what\h\h 338 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:30,720 would i give up and i always circle back like nope\h i'm probably exactly where i am right now just\h\h 339 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:37,760 asking questions that's that's that's the thing\h that's real truth is is real freedom but it\h\h 340 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:42,640 doesn't necessarily equate to real happiness and\h and we need to understand that people people are\h\h 341 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:47,120 looking for the next dopamine hit right and\h and whether it's in the latest fashion or\h\h 342 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:54,640 the latest sports car the latest you know trend\h whatever um and i just think we you know we we\h\h 343 00:32:54,640 --> 00:33:00,320 lose touch sometimes and in that pursuit of of the\h ultimate truth whatever that ultimate truth is up\h\h 344 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:04,080 i'm not sure we're ever going to get to the\h bottom of it i mean we we are a species that\h\h 345 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:08,800 loves to ask questions and inquire but you\h know we there's still a lot to this universe\h\h 346 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,720 we don't we don't know about yet you know i was\h just having this conversation not too long ago\h\h 347 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,680 we've been around as a species for the last\h hundred thousand years as homo sapien sapiens\h\h 348 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,840 and we've always kind of known there were\h other little animals that look like us and\h\h 349 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:26,400 monkeys and you know and then there's these things\h called fish and birds and insects right and then\h\h 350 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:31,520 of course plants and someone got real smart and\h decided to divide up the life forms on this planet\h\h 351 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:36,480 um according to to the animal kingdoms right so\h you have the plant kingdom and the animal kingdom\h\h 352 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:43,360 and fungus and uh you know we were happy and and\h it was a little bit more than a hundred years ago\h\h 353 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:47,600 that someone came up and said hey wait a minute\h you know there's this entire invisible reality\h\h 354 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:52,960 in fact there is a life form right in front of us\h on this planet that if you were to take all the\h\h 355 00:33:52,960 --> 00:34:00,960 biomass of all the people and all the animals\h and all the plants and all the trees and all\h\h 356 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:06,800 the fungus together and put it all together it\h still would not equal the biomass of this hidden\h\h 357 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:14,000 animal this animal this this hidden kingdom of\h life that we have on this planet and it was until\h\h 358 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:18,080 a little more than 100 years ago we\h discovered the the world of microorganisms\h\h 359 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:23,360 and this whole other category of life forms that\h are frankly truly the dominant life form on this\h\h 360 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:29,760 planet and yet it remained right in front of\h our faces and hidden for for millennia and we're\h\h 361 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:36,960 constantly realizing you know as a species really\h how how insignificant we are and yet here we are\h\h 362 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:42,160 having a conversation about the universe right so\h what a contradiction um we're skipping a couple\h\h 363 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:47,840 levels if that's the case i mean right like if if\h if we are all like say a mitochondria in a cell\h\h 364 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:55,760 that analogy like we are all a part of that one\h universe but maybe maybe we're a part of something\h\h 365 00:34:55,760 --> 00:35:00,320 a lot bigger and we're just like skipping that\h that step right sure well here's a scary notion\h\h 366 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:05,200 you know i don't want to go down too far down a\h rabbit hole but you know if i were let's ask a\h\h 367 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:10,480 basic question can you have matter exist without\h space well no you have to have a space for matter\h\h 368 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:15,440 to exist within it has to reside there and to\h some degree space is defined by how much matter\h\h 369 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:20,560 you have in it right so the two kind of need each\h other to exist and so let's say joe you popped in\h\h 370 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:26,320 all of a sudden into into the universe there's\h no other matter it's just you and empty space\h\h 371 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:32,480 there's no way for you to tell how big you are\h how small you are if you're moving your speed\h\h 372 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:38,000 because there's nothing else to compare it to now\h let's say all of a sudden joe then pops into the\h\h 373 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:45,600 universe right and now all of a sudden it's joe\h and ben there but you still don't know how big\h\h 374 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:50,720 you are relative to the big universe or how small\h you are you just know that you exist joe and that\h\h 375 00:35:50,720 --> 00:35:56,000 you got this guy named ben that exists too and\h that's all you have and so the more matter that\h\h 376 00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:01,520 begins to to to exist in the universe the more\h we can start comparing and contrasting well okay\h\h 377 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:05,360 you're a little bit smaller compared to me well\h you're a little bit bigger to me so therefore i\h\h 378 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:11,120 must fall somewhere in the middle and since you're\h moving away from me relative to me and this other\h\h 379 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:15,440 person then therefore you must have speed of a\h velocity of whatever we want to call it you know\h\h 380 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:22,800 it's really it's arbitrary but at the end of the\h day no matter how big or how small we are we still\h\h 381 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:30,000 have no idea the relative size of our universe we\h know relative scale but we really don't know at\h\h 382 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:35,600 the end of the day our universe could simply\h be within an atom of another universe right\h\h 383 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:42,320 or or could be the big universe we sit in this\h middle point of scale again not size but scale\h\h 384 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:48,880 where you have roughly 90 billion light years\h of of distance within the known universe we\h\h 385 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:53,360 kind of sit right in the middle of it and as\h as infinitesimally small and insignificant\h\h 386 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:58,240 as that may seem there is an equal amount of\h space in every single human being in fact if\h\h 387 00:36:58,240 --> 00:37:04,400 you compare an atom which is 1 times 10 to the\h negative 26 in size you know we are the universe\h\h 388 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:09,840 compared to the atom and we sit right in the\h middle of the known universe and and unless\h\h 389 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:15,200 something is one order degree magnitude above or\h below we'll never be able to to see it we'll never\h\h 390 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:19,840 be able to interact with it because it's either\h too big or too small so therefore by definition\h\h 391 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:26,160 the majority of the known universe is beyond our\h grasp it's we have to we have to figure out better\h\h 392 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:31,760 ways to to to to look at it and understand it and\h so i mean hell we don't even understand ourselves\h\h 393 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:36,160 how many people go to go to a therapist every week\h because we're trying to figure [ __ ] out i mean\h\h 394 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:41,040 we don't even understand ourselves as a\h species let alone the universe and so i think\h\h 395 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:47,120 part of my my my regret as as a human is that\h there are other speed other humans on this planet\h\h 396 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:55,120 that that seek to to monopolize the conversation\h about uaps to to provide a false narrative because\h\h 397 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:59,760 maybe they're making money on it maybe they're\h insecure about it maybe they just want attention\h\h 398 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:07,920 or maybe they have some some deep psychosis but\h either way they're trying to rob us as a people\h\h 399 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,520 from having this conversation because at the end\h of the day it doesn't matter as i said before\h\h 400 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:16,160 what lou elizondo thinks what matters is what\h you think what matters what the data suggests\h\h 401 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:21,120 because everybody's on this own personal journey\h together we're all going somewhere together but\h\h 402 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:25,680 each and every one of us are getting gonna\h get there a little bit differently some are\h\h 403 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:31,440 gonna walk some are gonna run you know some\h are gonna skip um and so you know i guess i\h\h 404 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:37,440 guess my great greatest regret is that still as\h capable as we are as a species there are still\h\h 405 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:42,480 we still have a lot to learn and and humility\h and humbleness is one of those lessons that\h\h 406 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:48,080 you know damn it we just we just keep tripping\h over the same rock man you know there's an old\h\h 407 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:52,800 saying hubris is a [ __ ] and that's there's a\h reason for that you know learn your lesson stop\h\h 408 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:59,840 stop stop pretending to be something you're not\h and um so that's my two cents maybe three cents\h\h 409 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:06,560 i like it dude yeah it's a good three\h cents dude i love it so much there's\h\h 410 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:10,960 there's so much wrapped into that ben would\h get there late that's why we're always like\h\h 411 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:20,080 but uh yeah i mean the the the uh the part about\h the journey right like uh starting to talk about\h\h 412 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:28,240 the stuff publicly uh not too long ago um we joe\h and i have had our own uh journeys on the show\h\h 413 00:39:28,240 --> 00:39:33,840 and separate journeys individually and some of\h our listeners they'll they've been uh listening\h\h 414 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:38,880 for a while and started the journey a little bit\h before us or at the same time or they just they\h\h 415 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:45,760 just hopped on like last july when the whole thing\h came out and they're like hey you guys are aren't\h\h 416 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:51,120 so you know stiff let's let's hang out yeah so we\h just kind of vibrate with certain people and i'm\h\h 417 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:55,680 not trying to talk about us but i'm talking about\h like different people's experiences and journeys\h\h 418 00:39:55,680 --> 00:40:02,640 and how fast and it's all relative back to that\h relativity thing and that all goes to to has to\h\h 419 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:08,400 do with this consciousness aspect um i guess my\h question would be like what do you what what do\h\h 420 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:15,280 you think consciousness what do you think the role\h is with what this whole phenomenon is like wow\h\h 421 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:21,120 is it is it is i don't want to make it more\h complicated by asking the second part but like\h\h 422 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:28,960 is everything one or is all not one if that\h makes any sense well it's it's all connected\h\h 423 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:34,080 i think is fair to say um you know there are\h principles in science now that are looking\h\h 424 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:38,640 into things such as string theory potentially\h potentially or holographic theory about our\h\h 425 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:44,560 universe and and there are there are discussions\h going on right now within the scientific community\h\h 426 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:48,000 of what human consciousness really is i don't\h mean sitting there in the lowest position\h\h 427 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:53,280 meditating i'm talking about about the the the\h processes that occur within the human brain\h\h 428 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:59,600 that signifi so you know what i'm going to show\h you something if you don't mind storytelling 429 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:08,880 because i wrote out this whole this whole thing\h but i chose to like make it simple so if you\h\h 430 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:15,200 if you need some time i could read that if this\h square okay represent i don't know if you can see\h\h 431 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:21,600 it with the glare hopefully yeah you can see it\h represents the human body okay and the human body\h\h 432 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,920 has something inside the circle\h which is called the brain\h\h 433 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:32,080 and that brain resides inside the body and the\h brain is responsible for certain functions and\h\h 434 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:36,560 biological functions that keep the body alive\h keeps your heart rate going and your breathing\h\h 435 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:42,640 and your body coincidentally is also responsible\h for keeping the brain alive through circulatory\h\h 436 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:47,680 processes and whatnot so the brain needs the body\h and the body needs the brain and so the brain is\h\h 437 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,920 responsible for thinking the body is responsible\h for protecting and moving and sustaining\h\h 438 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:57,840 um and and that's what a lot of people consider\h life but there's another element there's another\h\h 439 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:03,840 element to the human being and possibly too\h tall sentient life and that is the notion of 440 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:15,360 this triangle and that triangle is what some\h have referred to as the soul or the id or\h\h 441 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:21,920 the chi or the spirit right it is something\h that does reside inside the body but is not\h\h 442 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:31,200 contained necessarily with inside the body and is\h it possible that consciousness is is part of that\h\h 443 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:38,720 that process that that that that spirit that that\h that thing that is it is all-encompassing of what\h\h 444 00:42:38,720 --> 00:42:43,360 a human being really is the essence if you were\h to if you will imagine distilling a human being\h\h 445 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:49,680 down to its actual essence and and that is what\h you have left over once the the carbon of the\h\h 446 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:56,400 body is gone and you know what not the organics\h if you will what's left behind and that is the\h\h 447 00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:02,160 great mystery of the universe because that it\h is possible to some degree some people speculate\h\h 448 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:06,880 that's maybe how people can remote view and\h psychic abilities and all these things that\h\h 449 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:12,880 seem to be paranormal when in reality may\h have a very perfectly rational explanation\h\h 450 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:19,280 it's just part of a a hidden kingdom um but\h a hidden kingdom to which we're all connected\h\h 451 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:25,840 that's that's certainly you know something that is\h that is it's possible um it's it's hard to measure\h\h 452 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:32,560 things that you can't see or feel or touch or\h taste right so so how do you measure it well\h\h 453 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:39,680 you measure that in in the value of of love\h and expression and art right things that that\h\h 454 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:45,360 are intangible but are expressions of the human\h spirit um acts of random acts of kindness right\h\h 455 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:54,160 um people who who give more than they take um\h so again i don't want to get too esoteric on you\h\h 456 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:59,520 but i think that that human consciousness is\h something that we we don't really understand\h\h 457 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:06,880 very well um i think it is potentially um\h something that is is beyond the the carbon\h\h 458 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:13,040 units that we call a human being you know case in\h point if i if i if i get you know in combat and i\h\h 459 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:18,160 you know god forbid a me or a buddy of mine\h loses a leg or an arm or both my legs right\h\h 460 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:25,760 i'm still loo i just you know minus a couple limbs\h and if i have a you know a traumatic brain injury\h\h 461 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:30,320 um caused by sustaining combat or perhaps\h maybe i was born with it with a you know\h\h 462 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:37,360 unfortunate with a mental challenge um you know\h i'm still loo just because you know i'm not\h\h 463 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:43,600 i'm not necessarily as smart as as others i'm\h still loo so that's not what defines who lou is\h\h 464 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:48,400 or you ben or you joe or anybody in your audience\h you're not defined by what you see in the mirror\h\h 465 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:52,320 and you're not defined necessarily\h even by what you think or how you think\h\h 466 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:58,800 there's something else that makes ben ben and\h joe joe and lou lou so the question is what is\h\h 467 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:03,840 that what what is that this elusive property that\h we're looking for this fourth element if you will\h\h 468 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:11,120 uh of uh of of of matter you know and\h does it does it lie in the spiritual world\h\h 469 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:15,840 you know i mean there's i've been privy to some\h pretty extraordinary things i don't talk about\h\h 470 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:23,200 them publicly but you know i tend to be a fair\h fairly rational minded guy i went to to school and\h\h 471 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:27,920 studied science and and have degrees in that field\h and believe in the scientific method and process\h\h 472 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:34,960 but there are other elements out there um that\h that science can't explain yet and i think it's\h\h 473 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:39,760 okay and i think we should be be wary of just poo\h pooing and be like yeah that doesn't exist well\h\h 474 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:45,520 okay but there was a time that that people didn't\h know electricity existed right you saw lightning\h\h 475 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:50,640 in the sky oh the gods are angry you had no idea\h that it was electrons moving from cloud to cloud\h\h 476 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,480 you know yeah now of course we kind of laugh\h about it but that that was you know for a lot\h\h 477 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,680 of people that was real and that was the gods\h are angry you know i don't know about anything\h\h 478 00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:03,680 called electricity but i know that that the\h god's mad um so we're always learning we're on\h\h 479 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:09,600 this journey of of of of teaching each other and\h learning from each other hopefully and you know\h\h 480 00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:13,840 not trying to stifle each other's\h thoughts and and dreams and hopes 481 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:22,480 it's good stuff yeah let's go i'll\h ask is the last question dude um\h\h 482 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:28,080 so mine's i mean i guess mine's not as heavy it\h could be heavy if you wanted it to be though lou\h\h 483 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:32,960 it's kind of just uh throughout this whole process\h this whole thing i mean i know you've you said\h\h 484 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:37,200 you know you like getting to talk to people\h and stuff like that but what is one of the\h\h 485 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:43,200 it doesn't even have to be like uap related\h or anything what has been one of your\h\h 486 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:49,680 favorite experiences uh just in general through\h just getting to meet all these people and talk to\h\h 487 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:56,720 different people not getting to talk to people\h i mean like what what's i mean what's been\h\h 488 00:46:56,720 --> 00:47:02,240 your favorite thing so far i guess the greatest\h experience of my life has been that of a father\h\h 489 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:09,840 that has that is a culmination of anything and\h everything i could ever ever hope to be um my my\h\h 490 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,760 daughter's the greatest accomplishment of my life\h period full stop i'll never be able to achieve\h\h 491 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:20,160 anything greater than that um i still look up to\h them they're they're my they're they're my biggest\h\h 492 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:27,280 heroes um i almost lost my my youngest daughter\h during childbirth and almost lost my wife too so\h\h 493 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:33,120 i know what it is to to almost lose a loved one it\h was really touch and go there for a while um and\h\h 494 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:38,720 for me it's been it's been fatherhood you know i'm\h always learning something new now as far as ufo\h\h 495 00:47:38,720 --> 00:47:46,640 related it's this it's interacting with with real\h people people who who want to share ideas people\h\h 496 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:52,400 who want to improve other people's lives any way\h they can even if it's just a simple gesture or a\h\h 497 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:58,880 hug or a handshake um you know i spent a good\h portion of my life in in a career field where\h\h 498 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:06,000 you know one could argue you're you're destroying\h human beings you know and you know i'm at a point\h\h 499 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,120 in my life where i'd like to spend the rest of my\h life trying to put them back together if i could\h\h 500 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:20,320 i like it man love that yeah love that so i lu i\h mean you uh you hit on a couple of things man um\h\h 501 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:25,920 that that really resonated with me i i started\h writing a list of questions but like honestly\h\h 502 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:32,320 i only got to one because it like led me down\h this path man um and it just kept going and and\h\h 503 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:36,960 you kind of already addressed a couple of these\h these these talking points but this does be back\h\h 504 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:41,280 to like the deep stuff i just love talking about\h consciousness and like we're not speculating it's\h\h 505 00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:48,000 just like no what is speculation if no one\h knows yet like no one really knows so is it\h\h 506 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:52,560 speculation or is this discovery or or something\h i think it's discovery i think it said look\h\h 507 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:59,280 every law of science today every principle that\h we take to heart start off with someone's wacky\h\h 508 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:03,360 zany idea at one point someone's proposal\h and be like what are you talking about\h\h 509 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:09,680 so yeah go ahead oh i was gonna say\h so uh this this whole idea like uh\h\h 510 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:15,520 we we talk about the golden ratio and nikola\h tesla says if you only knew the magnificence of\h\h 511 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:21,120 three six and nine you would have the keys to the\h universe so then consciousness is merely a word we\h\h 512 00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:27,280 use to describe i'm reading by the way describe\h the receiving and emitting of both non-physical\h\h 513 00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:33,600 and physical frequencies consciousness much like\h love which you hit on earlier is a verb not a on a\h\h 514 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:40,240 not a noun if our brains are the hardware we use\h we use to interpret consciousness that means we\h\h 515 00:49:40,240 --> 00:49:45,200 are simultaneously interpreting both non-physical\h and physical frequencies whether it's while we're\h\h 516 00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:51,280 awake sleep consciousness conscious or unconscious\h does that mean our individual interpretation\h\h 517 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:57,840 of reality consciousness is subjective and that\h 100 percent truth doesn't exist or is it both\h\h 518 00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:05,120 well you know that's a great interesting question\h is there something as a as a as a universal truth\h\h 519 00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:09,680 well i i think there are but there's also\h mostly personal truths and i've said this\h\h 520 00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:15,440 before personal truth is like your belief in\h in religion your belief in government your\h\h 521 00:50:16,240 --> 00:50:20,720 your culture right there's a personal truth\h to you and then there's universal truths like\h\h 522 00:50:20,720 --> 00:50:25,200 gravity right nobody escapes that um that's that's\h everybody you can interpret the way you want but\h\h 523 00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:30,000 everybody's affected by the same unless you had\h a big pizza for dinner then you might be affected 524 00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:37,360 so you know it's it's one of those things and we\h have to be very clear what is a universal truth\h\h 525 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:44,720 and what is a personal truth and is a universal\h truth truly universal is it is it can even can\h\h 526 00:50:44,720 --> 00:50:51,040 that truth even be subjective to some degree\h right and so um you know i i do think that\h\h 527 00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:55,920 we are we are on a journey i think\h we are on a journey of discovery\h\h 528 00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,640 and i think it's okay to ask\h the questions and i think\h\h 529 00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:07,760 um be brave and be bold in in in your questioning\h of everything and everyone it's okay the truth\h\h 530 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:14,000 has nothing to fear it has nothing to hide um\h as i said before you know the truth the truth\h\h 531 00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:19,680 sometimes she whispers but if you listen carefully\h enough you know you'll you can hear her speak and\h\h 532 00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:26,880 i think i think that's what we should probably try\h to pay attention to because ben and joe and your\h\h 533 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:32,240 audience you know all have personal truths and\h and my personal truth may not necessarily be their\h\h 534 00:51:32,240 --> 00:51:36,560 personal truth but they're still truths they're\h still true to me just like their truth to them\h\h 535 00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:41,760 and we have to be able to reconcile that and\h understand that and as real as my truths may\h\h 536 00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:47,440 be they may not be real to other people and\h vice versa and so that is where the friction i\h\h 537 00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:51,760 don't think anybody really argues gravity you know\h universal truths tend to be everybody agrees okay\h\h 538 00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:56,480 yeah i got it you know the stove is hot yeah i'm\h gonna get burned got it okay you know um that's\h\h 539 00:51:56,480 --> 00:52:01,200 that's equal for everybody it's the personal truth\h where we have problems because we don't we don't\h\h 540 00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:05,360 relate to each other very well and we don't we\h don't really respect each other very well and so\h\h 541 00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:09,680 when you give them your personal truth or say\h that's crazy you know what you're talking about\h\h 542 00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:16,400 when in reality you do you know it's it's it's\h just your truth is it's again the old adage of\h\h 543 00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:21,920 the three three blind men you know touching an\h elephant one's touching the trunk one's touching\h\h 544 00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,600 the ear one's touching the foot and they're\h all describing something completely and totally\h\h 545 00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:31,840 opposite of each other and yet it's part of the\h same same animal the same the same structure\h\h 546 00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:40,880 boom love that yeah i think i think people get\h caught up on like like specifically asking you\h\h 547 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:46,000 things that like you're not allowed to talk\h about but i just love hearing your perspective on\h\h 548 00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:50,800 this type of stuff man well let me have it it's\h just my perspective right so i'm not qualified\h\h 549 00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:56,720 i'm not a philosopher i'm not a theologian i'm\h just i'm just lou and so i'm i'm speaking to you\h\h 550 00:52:56,720 --> 00:53:02,320 from my heart um and you know doesn't necessarily\h mean i'm right i'm just just telling you you asked\h\h 551 00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:07,520 me a question and i'll provide you an answer\h that that that i feel in my heart is is true\h\h 552 00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:11,120 but at the end of the day you know\h that's up for for you to decide 553 00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:19,760 i would i would love to do like an hour episode\h with you in the future where we do nothing but ask\h\h 554 00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:26,560 you stuff we already know you can't answer you're\h down with that dude let's make it happen because i\h\h 555 00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:30,880 always you know and and like you know i see you on\h interviews and stuff like that and you know that\h\h 556 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:36,560 you we always get to this point to where it's like\h you can't answer that nope and i would like to\h\h 557 00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:42,800 compile all of those questions into an hour where\h all we do is just ask you what color are they lou\h\h 558 00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:48,400 what do they look like i'd have to say this\h no comment i'm just gonna hold up a sign 559 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,880 yeah you wouldn't even have to come on\h camera we could just put your little\h\h 560 00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,840 circle up and it would just say no\h problem we're here with lou tonight\h\h 561 00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:02,640 i just want to see how many different ways\h you could say like i'm a lot i'm not allowed\h\h 562 00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:06,240 to talk about that i'm sorry guys like\h yes you can see we're gonna we're gonna\h\h 563 00:54:06,240 --> 00:54:09,760 test here we're gonna we're gonna have to\h test you how many ways you can say my wife\h\h 564 00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:14,240 sometimes comes to me she's like you know you you\h you got to figure something out because you're\h\h 565 00:54:14,240 --> 00:54:19,520 you know you can't just tell people no anymore i'm\h like what do i say it's just i don't know but you\h\h 566 00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:23,840 got to figure something out because you know it's\h um at some point you have to explain to people\h\h 567 00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:28,240 why and they said well you're hiding behind\h your nda well do you know how an mda works you\h\h 568 00:54:28,240 --> 00:54:32,480 know how top secret security works you know how\h you're getting could constantly reevaluate you\h\h 569 00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:37,360 have to take random polygraphs and random drug\h tests and you have to be you know psychological\h\h 570 00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:41,760 evaluations and you have your credit report looked\h at on a monthly basis you know it's called it's\h\h 571 00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:47,600 called the ce program continuous evaluation but\h anybody holds a clearance like that you know you\h\h 572 00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:54,000 you have to you have to be very mindful of what\h you say and it yes it it it's very stressful\h\h 573 00:54:54,000 --> 00:55:00,160 for me and sometimes even very painful when i\h know an answer and i i'm just not at liberty to\h\h 574 00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:07,120 to say but i think people need to understand\h that a security clearance is like it's like\h\h 575 00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:12,080 a marriage and when you take an oath either\h you mean it or you don't okay for me i mean\h\h 576 00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:17,600 it you know and so in this case my marriage is to\h the american people i took an oath swore that i\h\h 577 00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:23,600 would never ever compromise national security\h classified information and and i don't and if\h\h 578 00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:28,080 i were to make an exception to do that then you\h could never trust another word i say that comes\h\h 579 00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:32,800 out of my mouth because i violated that trust i\h violated that oath if i do it one time then i'm\h\h 580 00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:37,280 like cheating well i only cheat on my wife once\h well it's not only that's you know yeah okay well\h\h 581 00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:41,920 if you if you did it a thousand times it's still\h bad but cheating once is bad you know it's it's\h\h 582 00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:47,600 it doesn't make it any better and so yeah you know\h that's that's my perspective there's got to be\h\h 583 00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:54,720 like this kind of feeling though of like yeah like\h obviously we don't really know how like we don't\h\h 584 00:55:54,720 --> 00:56:00,720 know the details of like your your full you know\h life story and leading up to all of this stuff but\h\h 585 00:56:00,720 --> 00:56:05,680 you know there's got to be like this moment where\h it's like yeah i'll do that and then maybe things\h\h 586 00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:10,880 go sideways and you're like oh damn i wish i could\h tell people all this stuff but like now you can't\h\h 587 00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:15,440 because now you're in the nda and you've got all\h these extra checks that you know you have to go\h\h 588 00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:20,640 through and you know some things you you just\h can't say but i mean i'm sure it's gotta it's it\h\h 589 00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:25,680 like you said it's gotta kill you just a little\h bit to be like it does but always say that i think\h\h 590 00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:30,800 we also in you know in fairness it's because\h i haven't violated that oath we've been able\h\h 591 00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:35,120 to come this far in the conversation it's why\h i can go to capitol hill and talk to certain\h\h 592 00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:38,720 people there because because they can trust me\h they know i'm not going to sell them out they\h\h 593 00:56:38,720 --> 00:56:42,800 know i'm not going to violate that trust under any\h circumstances you can do whatever you want to me\h\h 594 00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:47,520 i'm not going to violate that trust and to me\h trust this means means everything either you're\h\h 595 00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:52,400 loyal to it or you're not and i'm again i'm not\h bagging anybody who's not feeling the way i do\h\h 596 00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:56,640 okay but you know here's a personal truth\h right this is this is my personal truth\h\h 597 00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:00,480 i made a promise damn it and i'm gonna keep it\h you know if you don't want to keep your promise\h\h 598 00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:05,360 you don't have to fine but but don't don't expect\h me not to keep mine and that's you know kind of\h\h 599 00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:11,360 kind of kind of how i feel about it yeah i mean\h it makes sense it makes sense look i gotta ask\h\h 600 00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:15,760 because you were talking about you know like they\h do like credit checks and all this other stuff\h\h 601 00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:19,520 what if everything is squeaky clean right but\h then like one day you were just like you know man 602 00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:25,600 no let's get this credit out of here like when\h you just take your credit one day like what\h\h 603 00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:29,280 would they what would they do to you they're\h like lou i need you to come into the office\h\h 604 00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:33,600 we notice that your your credit is kind of shitty\h lately and we want to know why yeah like what you\h\h 605 00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:38,960 know you would just be like well it's not your\h business like oh no they so i bought it because\h\h 606 00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:44,320 yeah because we want to make sure that you can't\h be be compromised we want to make sure that that\h\h 607 00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:48,880 if you get into so one of the biggest reasons\h people spy uh and i won't go into a lot of detail\h\h 608 00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:52,960 here but this is because they get into some\h sort of financial issues some financial crisis\h\h 609 00:57:53,600 --> 00:58:01,200 and so so to relieve them of that of that monetary\h burden um they start if you look at things like um\h\h 610 00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:05,200 hanson and alder james and all\h these folks that were spies\h\h 611 00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:10,800 a lot of them did it because they you know they\h were they need money pay out their debts pay off\h\h 612 00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:14,880 their debts because you know they don't want to\h lose their clearances they don't lose their status\h\h 613 00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:21,840 and so um that's one of the the indicators that\h that we have when someone's conducting espionage\h\h 614 00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:27,120 yep that makes sense that's\h smart that is real smart 615 00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:32,240 comes in the middle of the night\h and says hey you know i'll give\h\h 616 00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,800 you a million bucks for that\h you know document over there\h\h 617 00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:40,640 people think sure right well that's espionage\h you know you that's that's you can't do that 618 00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:52,000 we see kind of what happens to to anybody that um\h i guess goes against uh the intellectual property\h\h 619 00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:58,080 of our of our country and and shares it publicly\h uh doesn't go well no it doesn't history doesn't\h\h 620 00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:02,960 treat those people usually very well who try to\h rush her either um and so these are the lessons of\h\h 621 00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:07,360 life that we we need to to consider when you were\h doing something like this for me i also took an\h\h 622 00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:12,320 oath to the american people and that was that oath\h was sacred to me and that was always to tell the\h\h 623 00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:17,840 truth and to to defend this the the citizens of\h this country from all enemies foreign and domestic\h\h 624 00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:24,880 um to me it got to a point where the\h oath i took was the american people\h\h 625 00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,480 and and and to our institution\h it was not to the bureaucracy\h\h 626 00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:33,520 the bureaucracy is is something completely\h separate and different than what america is\h\h 627 00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:43,520 the bureaucracy is nothing more than a tool to to\h support the system my oath was never to the tool\h\h 628 00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:49,040 my oath was to to the person who holds the tool\h that's the american people this government is\h\h 629 00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:53,600 is designed to to work for the people not\h the other way around and uh far too often\h\h 630 00:59:53,600 --> 01:00:00,320 we forget that we think the government's this\h big you know thing out there this big monolithic\h\h 631 01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:07,120 thing and we have to you know do what it\h says no we don't it does what we we are\h\h 632 01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:12,240 the masters of the government not the other\h way around and and we cannot allow apathy\h\h 633 01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:19,920 to to to subjugate us because it will government\h will all governments will eventually if you're\h\h 634 01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:24,240 not careful if you allow you know there's an\h old saying absolute power corrupts absolutely\h\h 635 01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:31,680 so you have to be very mindful of it government\h should be should be should be wielded um\h\h 636 01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:38,080 and and i think it should be should be managed\h i don't think government's job is to manage us\h\h 637 01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:42,560 i think it's our job to manage government and that\h means getting involved in your local elections and\h\h 638 01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:46,720 making sure that you know the right people are\h in office there's an old saying that that that\h\h 639 01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:50,880 bad politicians are elected\h by good people who don't vote 640 01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:56,240 okay yeah yeah i see that 641 01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:06,560 i i was going to say something about me not voting\h in 2008 it worked out fine it was great so that's\h\h 642 01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:10,880 awesome well part of the problem is too we don't\h you know sometimes we have a very good selection\h\h 643 01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:15,760 right you know we're a country of 33 flavors like\h like like ice cream and unfortunately we're always\h\h 644 01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:19,920 forced to choose between chocolate and vanilla\h but most americans like either pistachio or\h\h 645 01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:22,640 strawberry right and they're like no yeah you\h can have whatever flavor you want as long as\h\h 646 01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:26,320 the chocolate or vanilla well wait a minute\h it said 33 flavors i thought i don't want\h\h 647 01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:31,920 one bubble gum right yeah bubble gum you want\h chocolate or vanilla they didn't pay us enough 648 01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:41,200 butter pecan man there's so many other options\h out there yeah those options are terrible i we\h\h 649 01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:47,200 normally don't talk about like [ __ ] politics on\h this show but like i think the bipartisan thing\h\h 650 01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:52,160 is kind of like like that's a great analogy\h right like the chocolate first vanilla or\h\h 651 01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:58,000 strawberry versus chocolates like dude um yeah god\h forbid if you want like a sundae and you want to\h\h 652 01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:05,840 mix the flavors together oh my god dude forget\h it pineapple canadian bacon dude i mean you if\h\h 653 01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:09,600 you put the chocolate and vanilla together dude\h it's it's it's like putting matter and antimatter\h\h 654 01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:16,080 together i mean you you still don't want to do\h it it's a it's an unlimited source of power yes\h\h 655 01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:21,600 yes hey before man we want to respect your time\h and before you know we get out of here and stuff\h\h 656 01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:25,680 i do want to take a couple like just a little\h chat room questions that's good absolutely some\h\h 657 01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:32,800 people we had some uh some super chats come in\h uh one of them is from john music it says to lou\h\h 658 01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:39,120 uh we need to all have a truly serious long talk\h about the millions of mysterious missing people um\h\h 659 01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:44,640 and abductions uh globally that are done without\h human consent is an assault or an act of war\h\h 660 01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:50,400 obviously you're not gonna be able to answer\h any of this but i want to get that out there\h\h 661 01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:55,600 maybe you just have an opinion on it right because\h people go missing we don't know what happens to\h\h 662 01:02:55,600 --> 01:03:01,040 them and some of them have some pretty interesting\h stories sure sure well first of all john thanks\h\h 663 01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:05,840 for the question um secondly let me state that\h you know i'm not sure it's it's millions of\h\h 664 01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:10,480 people but there there's it's substantial\h there's there's there's enough people who\h\h 665 01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:15,040 wind up missing that someone needs to look\h into it we know for a fact that folks like\h\h 666 01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:20,400 over in france and in the organization of japan\h had been looking at some missing persons on the\h\h 667 01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:25,760 french countryside that just disappeared just gone\h vanished like they were did they never existed\h\h 668 01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:33,600 we've have reports here in in the united states\h of individuals being gone for days at a time um\h\h 669 01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:37,760 you know in other cases people with missing time\h i happen to have a very good friend and colleague\h\h 670 01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:42,720 of mine i haven't talked to him for a while but he\h was uh be careful what i say here he was a patient\h\h 671 01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:52,080 of a effort in the government as it relates\h to this topic and you know he had missing time\h\h 672 01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:58,560 and it's something we should look into you know i\h think it's too early to tell to say well you know\h\h 673 01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:04,400 the people are being abducted and you know it's\h being caused by you know those things whatever\h\h 674 01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:09,680 they are flying um but we do need to look at it\h and if it turns out that's the case then we've\h\h 675 01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:14,080 got you know we've got some some hard questions\h we need to ask ourselves because you're right\h\h 676 01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:20,560 if you know where i come from as a former special\h agent if you take someone away from their location\h\h 677 01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:25,040 against their will that's called kidnapping\h right and by the way if i touch you that's called\h\h 678 01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:30,240 assault right so now we're talking two felonies\h right there yeah god forbid anything else right\h\h 679 01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:36,240 uh yeah you know anything else is you know it\h only gets worse from that so um i don't think\h\h 680 01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:42,960 that the conversation about things being always\h benevolent and good is necessarily accurate\h\h 681 01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:48,080 again that's a personal truth not a universal\h truth so i agree yeah i think we need to have\h\h 682 01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:51,920 that have that conversation at some point\h and this is why you see now the gillibrand\h\h 683 01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:56,000 law that was passed that we're\h going to look at biological effects\h\h 684 01:04:56,000 --> 01:05:01,120 you know that's because of people like you john\h who who who are curious about this and say hey\h\h 685 01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:06,640 is there is there a connection well you know what\h that's a damn good question let's find out awesome\h\h 686 01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:14,400 thank you john yeah um this is from mattduck74\h can you ask lou if there's an impending event that\h\h 687 01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:21,840 relates to recent disclosure efforts you may have\h alluded to that in one of your last interviews 688 01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:30,560 this is a highly evolving topic right now we're\h learning stuff every day um i think people would\h\h 689 01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:37,840 be shocked and and some would be amazed at some of\h the things that are happening um you know if you\h\h 690 01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:42,880 you're you're focusing on the three videos\h um that just got the conversation started\h\h 691 01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:47,440 right there's a lot more and it's getting\h the attention of some very senior people\h\h 692 01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:56,880 yeah all right hell yeah all\h right um let's see here um hmm 693 01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:02,960 let's see here joe i lost track\h dude i wish i could did you i know 694 01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:14,320 i think this one's fun uh lou so have\h you ever heard of a gravity cutter\h\h 695 01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:19,200 like does that does that ring any bells like it\h doesn't have to do with your specific job but like\h\h 696 01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:25,600 no i'm familiar of a lot of terms like gravity\h wells and i'm i'm you know i am familiar with\h\h 697 01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:32,480 kissimmee fx and things like that but i'm\h not familiar with the term gravity cutter\h\h 698 01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:38,400 the problem with gravity is very elusive we don't\h still know what the hell it is we know the effects\h\h 699 01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:44,720 of it but we still have no idea what it is is\h it is it is it a particle is it a field a wave\h\h 700 01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:51,760 you know or is it something completely and totally\h more bizarre um you know it's it's what we do know\h\h 701 01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:59,680 is if you have two objects in space that the space\h time between those two objects is is is different\h\h 702 01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:06,320 than the space around those objects on the outside\h why why is that why does why does matter perturb\h\h 703 01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:12,400 space and time the way that it does how does space\h know that it's there why does space react that way\h\h 704 01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:17,120 in time and so that tells you that there's some\h fundamental principles we don't understand yet\h\h 705 01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:23,200 space and time are connected but why and how\h um and why does it matter that that that mass\h\h 706 01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:28,560 in the universe perturbs it right um right you\h know we have all sorts of mathematical equations\h\h 707 01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:34,720 that can that can describe it but we still don't\h know what it is is is it a leech over effect is\h\h 708 01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:40,240 it a one of the fundamental forces that you know\h should be technically should be much much stronger\h\h 709 01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:45,920 why is it so much weaker well maybe it's is it\h bleeding off into another universe or a dimension\h\h 710 01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:52,720 these are all real hypotheses that have been been\h postulated by by very smart people in academia and\h\h 711 01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:58,800 and physicists we have no idea what gravity is\h so a gravity cutter you know unfortunately to\h\h 712 01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:04,320 me i i i don't even know what that means other\h than i i suspect it might be some sort of way to\h\h 713 01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:09,120 to separate gravitational\h fields but i don't know enough\h\h 714 01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:16,880 yeah gordi m85 thank you for that question yeah\h the uh i love uh i love that thought so there's\h\h 715 01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:22,640 this difference between is gravity a a wave\h or or a particle right kind of like with light\h\h 716 01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:28,240 right uh some some scientists have proved theories\h and disprove theories that when you observe light\h\h 717 01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:33,920 uh it's like yeah i mean some for people they call\h it a graviton right which is you know similar to\h\h 718 01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:38,160 a proton right so it kind of gives you this idea\h that oh it's this little little thing that goes\h\h 719 01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:43,440 out and it's called graviton but but others say no\h it's actually not that at all it's it's it's it's\h\h 720 01:08:43,440 --> 01:08:47,680 it's a wave that travels at the speed of light\h others say nope not even that yeah it's even\h\h 721 01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:53,280 more bizarre it's a field and that field can be\h perturbed and others say no it's not even that you\h\h 722 01:08:53,280 --> 01:09:00,080 know so we have we have we have more understanding\h of to to to do of gravity before i think we can\h\h 723 01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:05,680 i could even begin to try to answer the question\h a great question about by the way but i know but\h\h 724 01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:09,760 long story short i'm not familiar with the term\h gravity cutter it seems like every time we figure\h\h 725 01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:13,840 something out like give it 10 years we're going\h to find out 14 other things that it could be\h\h 726 01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:20,080 every door you open there's 10 more behind it\h yeah man strong believer in that joe did you\h\h 727 01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:28,480 find another one did uh let's see here well yeah\h there's one right here um mr growly mr crowley\h\h 728 01:09:28,480 --> 01:09:37,200 said told you guys it's all waves how consistent\h is low observability uh it's a question uh what\h\h 729 01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:45,360 other types of stealth tactics do they use\h that's by uh nando is is there in your in your\h\h 730 01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:52,000 research and stuff i mean yeah great question\h um so low observability was coined because it\h\h 731 01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:57,360 was hard to see both with the naked eye it was\h hard to see electro optically it was hard to see\h\h 732 01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:05,520 with with things like radar so the question is why\h and it turns out that there were some principles\h\h 733 01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:10,720 suggested in physics that if you understand the\h technology behind it then low observability is a\h\h 734 01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:16,880 natural byproduct of that technology it's\h going to be hard to see unless you power down\h\h 735 01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:24,080 that the vehicle the technology once it's\h powered up you're going to get this weird effect\h\h 736 01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:32,560 bubble around the the object the vehicle and as a\h result it's going to be extremely difficult to see\h\h 737 01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:38,240 because it's like looking at a koi fish underneath\h a pond it looks distorted it looks wavy when in\h\h 738 01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:42,800 reality the fish isn't destroyed distorted or\h wavy it's it's the way that light behaves when\h\h 739 01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:49,360 it hits the water and is reflected and refracted\h back into the eye the fish is fine it's not wavy\h\h 740 01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:55,760 at all it just appears that way and it we may\h be seeing something very similar vis-a-vis the\h\h 741 01:10:55,760 --> 01:11:02,800 the phenomenon of of gravitational lensing okay\h i've got i'm going to throw this one at you lou\h\h 742 01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:07,520 just real quick dude i i've been thinking about\h this for a couple of months but since the tic tac\h\h 743 01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:12,880 video came out a couple other videos i it got me\h thinking like what is recording these videos like\h\h 744 01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:18,880 scale it down it's it's cameras that rely\h on digital sensors okay well let's break\h\h 745 01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:25,840 down that down what technology makes up that\h sensor and then that just threw me ultimately\h\h 746 01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:36,080 it boils down to technology that is looking at\h a very very very narrow spectrum of the we call\h\h 747 01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:42,640 the electro-optical spectrum okay so when you\h look at at the electromagnetic spectrum and you\h\h 748 01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:47,280 start on one end and you work your way all the\h way up until eventually you get to this little\h\h 749 01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:52,800 tiny band we call visible light then you move up\h into ultraviolet and ultimately into x-ray and to\h\h 750 01:11:53,680 --> 01:12:00,560 to gamma radiation right um we perceive the entire\h universe through this little tiny slit of colors\h\h 751 01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:05,120 we call visible light to us that's the universe\h everything right but in reality it's not it's just\h\h 752 01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:15,520 a tiny little sliver and so um we when we design\h equipment like electro optical gun cameras they\h\h 753 01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:22,800 are looking at energy through the that range of\h visible light you see like on a black and white tv\h\h 754 01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:28,960 and just a little below like infrared and heat and\h just a little bit above but it's still super super\h\h 755 01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:35,600 narrow yeah um so so it's it's it's really tough\h because we think that the things these equipments\h\h 756 01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:39,760 these pieces of equipment we have are so so so\h incredibly capable and some of them are when\h\h 757 01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:43,920 you get into hyper hyper spectral technology now\h you're now you're talking looking at a much wider\h\h 758 01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:50,240 swath right a think of a much bigger lens that you\h can you can see stuff with but in reality most of\h\h 759 01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:55,520 the technology we have is designed for combat\h aircraft you know and let's face it a mig-25\h\h 760 01:12:55,520 --> 01:13:02,560 or an su-22 um is operating you can see it you\h know so so a gun camera works just fine but when\h\h 761 01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:06,320 you're dealing with the technology and like you\h mentioned even stealth and stuff like that where\h\h 762 01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:14,720 low observability is part of its design then you\h have to develop other sensors um that are that\h\h 763 01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:21,280 are that are that complement that that that camera\h system and we do you know you have you have lidar\h\h 764 01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:26,480 and laser technology now that you can use to\h quote-unquote ping a target or paint a target\h\h 765 01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:32,160 hyperspectral technology\h you've got all sorts of stuff\h\h 766 01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:38,400 love it we've got two more two more\h quick ones uh uh one of them is are\h\h 767 01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:43,600 people who are physically uh affected by\h these things being studied in universities\h\h 768 01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:51,040 i can't answer that right now because i can't\h speak on behalf of of those institutions that\h\h 769 01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:56,240 might or might not be involved i don't have\h i don't have the permission to do that um i\h\h 770 01:13:56,240 --> 01:14:03,200 will tell you that data is being looked at but i\h can't say by who um not that i don't know i just i\h\h 771 01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:12,960 i i can't say that right now okay and then uh\h last one guys um hey guys great show question\h\h 772 01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:19,520 for lou lou mentioned about there being roswell\h data what ra roswell data were you referring to\h\h 773 01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:27,840 thanks for the super chat super chat josh\h thanks for chop super chat dude the um\h\h 774 01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:33,680 i think people will be surprised to know there's\h more to roswell than than i think most people\h\h 775 01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:39,440 are aware of some people are aware of it but\h you know there's there's more to roswell uh\h\h 776 01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:45,840 and you know there's there's other other\h similar incidents that are equally compelling 777 01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:51,040 love it i want to be careful because\h like i wasn't around for roswell\h\h 778 01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:58,080 and and we have to be careful because we don't\h want anecdotes to to to cloud facts right bottom\h\h 779 01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:03,840 line it's a really cold case it happened a long\h long time ago uh yeah and you know those people\h\h 780 01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:10,240 who were involved most of them are dead quite\h frankly so the difference the the the distance\h\h 781 01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:16,160 between facts and truths as we were talking about\h earlier become farther distance as you yeah i mean\h\h 782 01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:20,320 let's let's let's let's look at this from from\h an empirical data perspective okay let's just\h\h 783 01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:27,840 suspend what people know right now of walmart of\h roswell or what they think they know um you know\h\h 784 01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:33,920 if a balloon crashes i'm probably going to send\h a staff sergeant and probably a couple privates\h\h 785 01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:39,280 to go retrieve the balloon i'll probably send\h a little small security detail a couple mps to\h\h 786 01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:45,760 go out and just secure the area make sure no one\h you know trips over it i wouldn't necessarily send\h\h 787 01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:56,160 a senior officer with a lot of people and and\h a a flatbed trailer uh lowboy trailer with\h\h 788 01:15:56,160 --> 01:16:01,600 you know three axles that are designed to to carry\h heavy heavy heavy weights right in big objects\h\h 789 01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:08,240 for a mylar balloon that's that's not that's\h not the way we do business you know you don't\h\h 790 01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:13,120 you don't do that you don't send an army out to\h to write a speeding ticket that that's not the\h\h 791 01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:19,680 way it works you know or backhoes to move dirt\h large amounts of dirt right you know balloons\h\h 792 01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:25,040 don't do that you don't need that for a balloon\h crash you know you need two people that's it and\h\h 793 01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:31,680 probably the trunk of a jeep a rope yeah and done\h you know one and done let's hope it's not windy\h\h 794 01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:37,920 that day you got balloon flying all over your face\h jesus christ come out here maybe we get a raise\h\h 795 01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:45,280 or nothing even tell me where pants i came out of\h my shorts when we get back i'm telling everybody i\h\h 796 01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:49,200 got sand i got sand burns on my knees when we\h get back i'm telling everybody it was aliens 797 01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:55,280 so you know that that's some of the\h you know some of the things that people\h\h 798 01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:58,960 should consider when when you're you\h know looking at a cold case like this\h\h 799 01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:05,440 you know why is it that you had this asymmetric\h response this you know to to balloon of all things\h\h 800 01:17:05,440 --> 01:17:12,320 yeah yeah yeah well that's awesome man hey dave\h scott of spaced out radio said lou some of us miss\h\h 801 01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:18,560 your chin blade man and i gotta say i i i miss\h it too dude i miss it too i'm a fan of the beard\h\h 802 01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:26,320 i i i i can certainly grow back you know being\h latino um you know i can i got this yeah i can\h\h 803 01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:31,920 honestly i can i can bench press one time and\h have a full beard yeah right you probably shaved\h\h 804 01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:38,880 this morning so yeah right exactly yeah about an\h hour ago um so it it's uh it's not a problem with\h\h 805 01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:44,720 people like that it's just you know i had it for a\h long time and i don't want it to be a distraction\h\h 806 01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:48,880 you know the one thing i don't want i know it's\h iconic because oh you're that guy with the goatee\h\h 807 01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:52,880 but then you know you wind up risking being\h that cult of personality right where that\h\h 808 01:17:53,440 --> 01:17:58,080 you that becomes your identity and all of a sudden\h people that's you're just you're that ufo guy when\h\h 809 01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:03,040 in reality no i'm just a guy that happened to be\h studying ufos for the government you know and yeah\h\h 810 01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:10,400 so um i decided i try to try to grow the beard out\h a little bit and um yeah come on i guess shave it\h\h 811 01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:15,200 off it's i like the one i'm like i'm liking\h the beard man i'm liking it let it come on\h\h 812 01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:19,120 in because that's what i said last the last time\h you're on i think you should grow the whole thing\h\h 813 01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:24,400 and let's see what happens and uh here we are\h you know asking you shall receive everybody\h\h 814 01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:30,560 the problem is i will never have the glorious beer\h that you have mine will probably come out about\h\h 815 01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:35,920 halfway through and then be all kind of patchy and\h mangled and you know it looks you know you've got\h\h 816 01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:42,000 to think of like this nice distinguished you know\h santa claus beard but not in my case some chicken\h\h 817 01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:48,720 nuggets yeah you know birds flying in and out of\h it and creating nests and all that so in and out 818 01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:53,840 is that a color tv you have hidden there lou 819 01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:13,120 well man this has been a great time lou thank\h you so much for hanging out with us again and\h\h 820 01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:19,120 answering some of our listeners questions and just\h kind of shooting it with us man um absolutely love\h\h 821 01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:22,960 it my you know my my wife i mean even if i didn't\h want to do it she wouldn't let me she loves you\h\h 822 01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:28,000 guys so you know it's uh you're you're right there\h at the top of the list you guys can ask any time\h\h 823 01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:34,480 and and mrs elizondo is going to to say you\h know lou you're doing it yeah awesome man\h\h 824 01:19:34,480 --> 01:19:39,440 awesome wait start hitting the gym lou we're going\h to do a topless episode soon all right and maybe\h\h 825 01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:46,240 we'll be topless and do a full hour especially if\h you can't answer it you know what you have my word\h\h 826 01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:53,920 i'll do it there we go there we go all right well\h hey lou thanks for stopping by tonight man it's\h\h 827 01:19:53,920 --> 01:20:00,960 been great joe ben my pleasure and a big big thank\h you to your your awesome audience um you know at\h\h 828 01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:04,800 the end of the day that's that's who this is all\h about you know we all know that you know you guys\h\h 829 01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:10,800 and myself it's all about the audience um this\h is why we do what we do because we don't have\h\h 830 01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:14,960 the ability to talk to each and every single\h one of them in a room otherwise we would\h\h 831 01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:17,760 so we have to do the next best thing right\h so we create a virtual room and say come\h\h 832 01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:22,160 on in everybody let's let's let's talk just\h hang out you know yep figure out the universe 833 01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:30,080 thank you so much man you got it guys my pleasure\h as always and hope to see you guys real soon if\h\h 834 01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:34,880 you guys are in your even your audience are out in\h wyoming uh you know you always got a free place to\h\h 835 01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:40,640 stay awesome man that sounds great it sounds great\h dude yeah we'll definitely hit you up on that\h\h 836 01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:45,520 actually we're just talking about that so next\h time we take a road trip dude man absolutely come\h\h 837 01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:50,880 on out and show you the jeeps and the motorcycles\h and all right some of my some of my uh projects\h\h 838 01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:56,240 let's do it man well we'll definitely keep in\h touch with you all right all right guys be safe\h\h 839 01:20:56,240 --> 01:21:00,080 take care and yes sir again thanks for everything\h you guys do really appreciate it and thank you\h\h 840 01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:04,160 to your to your amazing audience thank you so\h much for spending the evening with me yes sir\h\h 841 01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:10,240 thank you thank you for your time brother talk\h to you later man take care guys bye all right\h\h 842 01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:15,440 cool man hi he did it that's another\h one in the books round two with lou yeah\h\h 843 01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:22,160 yeah man it was a good night that was a good\h night thanks everybody for uh coming and hanging\h\h 844 01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:27,200 out with us checking it out sorry we didn't get to\h everybody's questions uh it's just you know it's\h\h 845 01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:33,280 a lot of them there's a lot of you guys in here\h tonight hey yeah hey there's like there's like a\h\h 846 01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:39,440 hundred and thirty more of you in here than usual\h than usual you guys are fakers you guys are fakers\h\h 847 01:21:39,440 --> 01:21:46,400 you guys are fakers i knew it you guys don't watch\h the show hey i mean honestly thanks for stopping\h\h 848 01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:50,480 by we love you guys if y'all haven't seen the\h show thanks for for coming by and hanging out\h\h 849 01:21:50,480 --> 01:21:56,080 with us for a little bit even if it was just for\h lou i mean we get it we get it but dude that was\h\h 850 01:21:56,080 --> 01:22:02,960 so much fun man i i just love talking to that dude\h yeah man he's a very interesting guy right i mean\h\h 851 01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:08,640 it it really boils down to right there are some\h specifics that you can really get into but like\h\h 852 01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:19,920 you know it's the conversation you know what kind\h of conversation can we have um no matter who it is\h\h 853 01:22:21,440 --> 01:22:30,560 we like to start 30 minutes in yeah yeah we loosen\h up a little bit shoot [ __ ] i mean like i just i\h\h 854 01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:36,160 would never want to like start off i mean that's\h what that's not the show like this isn't hey\h\h 855 01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:40,400 [ __ ] answer me like that's what i was\h thinking earlier when you were asking me\h\h 856 01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:45,040 about your question i didn't know if we were going\h to start it and be like hey everybody we got louis\h\h 857 01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:50,640 lou what do you think about consciousness and\h is everything everything or is everything not\h\h 858 01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:57,680 everything but one i was like oh [ __ ] that's\h why i gave you the the moment of silence 859 01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:09,440 you're very polite but i i figured we would you\h know banter for a little bit and then i mean\h\h 860 01:23:09,440 --> 01:23:13,520 eventually get to the deep question but i just\h spent so much time trying to think of questions\h\h 861 01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:18,560 and i only came up with one no i thought it was\h an amazing question i just didn't want to say\h\h 862 01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:25,040 don't say it first and then you think that it\h wasn't an amazing question oh got it yeah but it\h\h 863 01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:32,720 was a great question so thank you man yeah yeah it\h was a great night man great night yeah dude let's\h\h 864 01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:39,920 be back on uh what's up oh no i was gonna ask\h if you ate both of your tacos i didn't i started\h\h 865 01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:44,400 chatting and then you weren't eating your tacos\h and then he wasn't eating tacos and i was like\h\h 866 01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:49,360 well i'm trying to eat these tacos and like but\h then i wanted to like ask questions and i couldn't\h\h 867 01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:54,240 because i had mouthful of taco and i couldn't be\h the only one with mouthful of taco you know yeah\h\h 868 01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:59,360 okay well that's okay that makes me feel better uh\h because i'm like i'm not starving i ate before but\h\h 869 01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:04,720 it would have been funny if it was\h just you just nominate tacos the entire\h\h 870 01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:09,520 i mean it would have been like 15 minutes um\h yeah dude yeah dude thank you all everybody\h\h 871 01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:14,000 in the chat for hanging out with us and asking\h awesome questions and just hanging out i mean\h\h 872 01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:18,480 that's lou said at the beginning or at the end\h like that's what this is all about it's like\h\h 873 01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:24,080 open up opening up the conversation talking\h about this stuff trying to figure this stuff out\h\h 874 01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:31,200 uh even if he can't answer it right then he's like\h hey i asked the question luke couldn't answer it\h\h 875 01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:36,720 i'm gonna hold it really close and then i'm gonna\h ask somebody else that question and i'm gonna keep\h\h 876 01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:42,320 asking that question until somebody answers me\h yeah you know yeah and then that's okay it's okay\h\h 877 01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:47,280 just just because one person maybe didn't answer\h it or maybe didn't give you the answer that you\h\h 878 01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:52,000 wanted doesn't mean you shouldn't still seek it\h i think i think every question is is valid like\h\h 879 01:24:52,000 --> 01:25:00,080 we should validate every uh form of curiosity\h like no like it's so dumb to say like in cliche\h\h 880 01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:04,960 but like no no question is a dumb question i\h think we should we should validate everything\h\h 881 01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:12,240 right like if we should we should have asked\h him if the sun was cold dude i thought about it\h\h 882 01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:18,480 thought about it but like it's not true i didn't\h know this that the well we can maybe this is\h\h 883 01:25:18,480 --> 01:25:22,480 a thursday topic but there's like multiple\h layers to the sun that i did not know about\h\h 884 01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:28,640 definitely we'll get into that thursday man\h definitely thursday thursday will be a fun\h\h 885 01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:37,200 one yeah it will be fun uh uh uh flynn bigfoot\h and on and maybe that guy is is a super smart\h\h 886 01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:41,440 guy maybe we can we can uh uh bounce around\h the same kind of because i'm gonna be riding\h\h 887 01:25:41,440 --> 01:25:47,120 high on all these these answers and questions\h yeah for sure right so i'm sure he'll have a uh\h\h 888 01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:53,520 a weigh-in of some sort so we'll see we'll\h see you guys uh thursday yeah it's gonna be\h\h 889 01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:58,000 it's gonna be a great time everybody that was\h here tonight we'll see you thursday come back\h\h 890 01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:02,480 on thursday we're gonna be talking to flynn\h it's gonna be good times man but yeah you guys\h\h 891 01:26:02,480 --> 01:26:09,280 can catch us every tuesday for it's usually\h totally topless two topic two taco tuesday\h\h 892 01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:16,400 um i had my tacos we had our tops on uh but you\h guys heard it we we we sweetened old lu up enough\h\h 893 01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:21,120 to where he said the next time he's totally coming\h on with his shirt off so we'll be here next week\h\h 894 01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:25,280 with our shirts off you can also catch us on\h thursdays we're here every thursdays we've got\h\h 895 01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:31,280 shirts on if you prefer that no biggie everybody's\h a little bit different right you know some people\h\h 896 01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:34,960 some people like it some people don't you\h know but can we for those that don't know\h\h 897 01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:40,160 it's it's totally like it's just a funny joke that\h started it started out as a joke and it built up\h\h 898 01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:46,800 built up uh the the shirtless thing right like\h yeah it went from a joke to a thing so now it's\h\h 899 01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:53,680 a thing so come check us out on tuesdays also\h guys go to ufo garagepodcast.com we're uh you\h\h 900 01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:58,560 know that's that's our website and we got cool\h t-shirts we've got all the episodes on there you\h\h 901 01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:03,920 can check out all of our stuff anytime you buy\h something from us 20 of that um every quarter\h\h 902 01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:08,880 we take it and we donate it to somebody who needs\h a little bit of help if it's in ufo community or\h\h 903 01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:14,240 people are doing research that need some funding\h or whatever we just we just want to take our money\h\h 904 01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:20,000 and uh the the merchandise that you guys purchased\h from us and use a little bit of y'alls money and\h\h 905 01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:25,280 together we can all help each other out and uh you\h know our first one is gonna be going to anomaly\h\h 906 01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:32,320 archives you guys will have smiles on here march\h 10th um he runs this thing it's friggin amazing um\h\h 907 01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:37,600 really really cool dude i don't want to give away\h too much until he hops on uh awesome dude man i\h\h 908 01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:44,080 mean this place is is so cool i'm talking books\h right from like the 1600s everything all the move\h\h 909 01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:49,280 on cases you could ever want to read it's not\h just ufos and stuff like that right i mean we're\h\h 910 01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:55,200 talking cryptids we're talking consciousness\h we're talking everything witches and and\h\h 911 01:27:55,840 --> 01:28:03,280 and ditches and and you know slamming in the back\h of my dracula that kind of stuff super awesome\h\h 912 01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:09,360 anomaly archive dude they've got they've\h got so many vhs's you can even rent books\h\h 913 01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:14,080 from them it's amazing i love that place and\h unfortunately we were only able to go there\h\h 914 01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:19,120 once kovid kind of put him in a sticky situation\h the rent went up so we're trying to find him a\h\h 915 01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:24,480 new home and that's what we're doing so we'll be\h having smiles on march 10th from anomaly archives\h\h 916 01:28:24,480 --> 01:28:29,440 trying to help them out so our first quarter is\h going to them so yeah every time you purchase\h\h 917 01:28:29,440 --> 01:28:37,040 something from us some of it goes to them to help\h them out so go check it out yeah dude awesome was\h\h 918 01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:42,880 that good dude you're crushing it bro appreciate\h it man crushing that dude i just wanted to die\h\h 919 01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:47,520 you're doing a good job well hey i appreciate that\h i appreciate the encouragement you appreciate me\h\h 920 01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:52,960 and i'll do it better next week too really i'll\h be practicing yeah hold i'll hold you to it\h\h 921 01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:59,040 hell yeah man all right man well that's uh\h that's about it for me dude yeah man hell yeah